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Offline TonyHants

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Hi, just going to do first chain clean and oil.

It's bit fiddly without centre stand does anyone have any tips apart from moving bike backwards/

Also manual says use a sealed drive chain cleaner (I don't have) or water and a 'neutral' detergent. What's that?

The manual goes on to say don't use petrol, kerosene etc or I'll damage o rings.

Just appreciate any tips anyone has picked up

Offline Megashorts

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Re: Chain cleaning, no centre stand, plus which detergent to use?
« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2019, 04:16:26 PM »
I like to use WD40 branded motorcycle chain cleaner around every 1000 miles. It blasts the old lube and crap off quite well.

A centre stand makes life so much easier. Its a effortless to check your front and rear tyres, take a wheel off, chain maintenance etc. Not many bikes now even have the option to fit one. A paddock stand is another option.

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Re: Chain cleaning, no centre stand, plus which detergent to use?
« Reply #2 on: June 24, 2019, 04:20:49 PM »
Hi mate,
Thought I would chip in with my twopeneth ;)

Well the best advice I can give if you don't have a centre stand and intend to service your bike yourself is to get one - I found mine to be invaluable for every time I wanted to work on the bike! You can pick one up for less than a quarter of the price of getting your bike serviced so it will pay for itself pretty soon. Also think about all the things you can't do without one i.e. back wheel removal etc. etc. Failing that a paddock stand or a bike lift can be got second hand. As it happens I have a bike lift for sale lol.

An old toothbrush is ideal for cleaning your chain and if you look in a supermarket there are many non-detergent cleaners available relatively cheaply - fairy pure and clean is an example and a good pair of rubber gloves with water as hot as you can stand.
When I used to clean mine I just sprayed it with wd40 and then washed it off with warm water and obviously oiled it again.
If you go to a bike shop you will be able to purchase an actual bike cleaner spray for about £10 - but why would you!!
Also get a sheet under your bike when you do clean it because you WILL make a mess .
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Re: Chain cleaning, no centre stand, plus which detergent to use?
« Reply #3 on: June 24, 2019, 09:00:30 PM »
I use WD40 to clean the chain, I don't think it degrades the o ring seals. Afterwards I give the whole chain a light oiling with old engine oil then wipe it off with an old towel, so it just leaves a very light coating to stop rust. My chain seems to be in good condition and rarely needs adjustment. I have centre stand which makes the whole job much easier.

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Re: Chain cleaning, no centre stand, plus which detergent to use?
« Reply #4 on: July 04, 2019, 09:32:48 PM »
Hello all,

I've got a centrestand which makes life so much easier.

Re chain lube, I detest the thick, sticky, specialist lubes which harden on the chain.  I prefer to keep my chain clean and lightly oiled.  I use Scott Oil (the type they use in the chain oilers) but just brush it on or pour it into a rag and run the chain through it.  If you do it often (after every ride), there is no need for messy chain cleaning sessions - just wipe over with some clean oil and the chain id good to go  :028:

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Re: Chain cleaning, no centre stand, plus which detergent to use?
« Reply #5 on: July 04, 2019, 09:37:38 PM »
Forgot to mention, for chain "cleaning" which I never need to do except when the dealer sprays the thick gloop over the chain, I use WD40 on a rag - spray onto rag, run the chain through it and give it a rub and clean, then back to my normal old Scott Oil or engine oil (as previous post).

PS - I would NEVER run the chain through the rag with the engine running - that just asking to lose a few fingers.  DON'T DO IT  :110:

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Re: Chain cleaning, no centre stand, plus which detergent to use?
« Reply #6 on: July 31, 2019, 05:57:08 AM »
I dont have a center stand... and have found it impossible to source one down here. However, i have used to ways to clear the back wheel from the ground:

Jack where the center stand goes. I used a scissor jack on one of the sides where the bolt goes. Make sure your front wheel is turned completely to the left locked position first. A level floor also helps.

Now I use a jack stand to rest the bike on the right side swingarm. I lift the bike (bend ypur knees, back straight) and place the jack stand, rising up a couple of levels, so that the back wheel is clear.

Finally, i use a spray bottle with kerosene to clean, light brush with used tooth brush, spray again, dry with a rag, wait, dry again. Finally lube. I have used muc-off dry lube with very good results. I tried a couple of others but either got a completely caked chain or flung off too quickly. Have not tried motor or transmission oil (80w-90

I ride every day to work. Have got into the habit of lubing every 500km and full clean every 1500km approx. This has worked well for me. I will try to replace the kerosene, its pretty messy (but cleans a beauty).

My main concern is not to clean too much. Dont go wild with the brush! I'm thinking that its not a good idea to go rough on the o,x or z rings, and damage them or squeeze the grease that is trapped behind them.

It seems that if you do ANY sort of maintenance on the chain (light clean and lube, only lube, etc) it will make a big difference. Complete neglect will run your chain dry and quite likely give you some kinked links and/or split rings.

Having said that, i have found some blokes that hardly maintain the chain and still get 40k out of them... guess it depends how much work you want to put into it.
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