Sports Bikes - too powerful for normal road use?

[Robell]

Can't argue with that.
20 mph is plenty outside schools, hospitals, shops etc
I'd also clamp down on parents who think it's ok to park right outside school gates to drop their kids off, creating a traffic hazard in the process.
Having said that, I think pedestrians also have a duty to act responsibly near roads.

But even the IAM (Institurte of Advanced Motorcyclists) advocate making good progress, when conditions allow 

[cgblueman]

More logical and valid points from Scoot and Robell, with which I couldn't agree more. Its about the knowing when to open it up and certainly when not to. All this makes me feel even more convinced that super sports bikes are too powerful for public roads, keep it for the track I say, and Inazuma all the way 

[scoot]

With you on that blue also if you hit a pedestrian it's the road user at fault No ifs or buts
Scoot

[Robell]

So, you're riding down the road, well within the limits, pedestrian happily texting away, steps out into the road, without bothering to look, and you'll accept the blame ?

Sorry, everyone has to be responsible for their actions, wether they're a pedestrian, driving a 40 ton truck, or any point between.

This argument that pedestrians are always, automatically in the right, is fundamentally wrong..

....in my humble opinion 

[cgblueman]

Robell

So, you're riding down the road, well within the limits, pedestrian happily texting away, steps out into the road, without bothering to look, and you'll accept the blame ?

Sorry, everyone has to be responsible for their actions, wether they're a pedestrian, driving a 40 ton truck, or any point between.

This argument that pedestrians are always, automatically in the right, is fundamentally wrong..

....in my humble opinion 

I hear you Robell and agree that in some cases surely common logic should prevail and obviously the pedestrian IS sometimes to blame. Here in Greece they are very stuck on this issue of the driver is always at fault. I was driving down a single carriage road through a town, doing 40kph not 50kph as limit said, to be more careful as was a busy day lots of people. On my right on the side of the road next to the kerb was a big recycling bin. Here in Greece next to the road they commonly put these bins, sometimes in a recessed area other times not! This one was slightly set back in a recess, but still very close to me in my lane. Out of no where appeared a young5-6 year old girl on a pushbike with stabilizers. She came out onto the road from the side of the bin that was not visible to me, and peddled past the bin and back onto the pavement. As she was so small and had been on the side of the bin not visible to me on my approach, there was no way I could have seen her. Only when she came out onto the road right in front of me, literally only a couple of feet between us. Fortunately I safely moved out around her, without obstructing oncoming traffic, but it was so close I could have easily misjudged or not reacted quickly enough, and I would have hit her, seriously injuring her if not worse. Thankfully I didn't but if I had have hit her immediately I would be to blame. No question of her actions (ok little girl doesn't think and her parents should be to blame for not watching her properly) just a simple case of driver at fault and your whole life screwed up. There needs to be a serious review of such ridiculous laws.

[scoot]

I know its stupid but you would think that the road is for transport but the law states that the pedestrian owns the road end of.
If you are traveling down a town main street and a child throws themselves at your car its your fault no question daft I know but their you go.
Scoot

[Robell]

I'd support the idea that the driver of a vehicle holds the greater responsibility.
 
As far as reasonably possible you should be prepared for the unexpected.

[scoot]

Alway bud always.
Scoot 

[cgblueman]

  completely agree expect the unexpected! Plus expect others to make mistakes, prepare and react accordingly. The more years experience on the road I have gained, the more 'defensive' I have become.

[scoot]

Have you ever read the Road Craft book a bloody good read.
Scoot